BC-Vancouver metro area (604/778) tariff errors

[TheHardy]

As per Mike's request, here is the current listing of NPA-NXX (exchanges) that are local to VANCOUVER which are incorrectly tariffed as NON-free ...

604-239 New Westminster (Iristel)
604-243 North Vancouver (Iristel)
604-245 New Westminster (Iristel)
604-256 New Westminster (Iristel)
604-259 Vancouver (Iristel)
604-260 Vancouver (Iristel)
604-262 Vancouver (Iristel)
604-281 West Vancouver (Shaw Telecom)
604-310 7-Digit Service (you may not allow this, but it is tariffed $0.00 for NPA 416/647...)
604-330 Richmond (Iristel)
604-334 Vancouver (Distributel)
604-335 Vancouver (Distributel)
604-336 Vancouver (Shaw Telecom)
604-343 Vancouver (Distributel)
604-356 Vancouver (Bell Mobility)
604-358 Vancouver (Bell Mobility)
604-370 Richmond (Shaw Telecom)
604-382 Ladner (Shaw Telecom)
604-385 White Rock (Shaw Telecom)
604-401 Vancouver (Globalive/WIND)
604-424 Vancouver (Distributel)
604-445 Vancouver (Globalive/WIND)
604-446 Vancouver (Globalive/WIND)
604-474 Port Coquitlam (Shaw Telecom)
604-492 Port Moody (Shaw Telecom)
604-497 Whalley (Shaw Telecom)
604-498 Whalley (Shaw Telecom)
604-503 Newton (Shaw Telecom)
604-553 New Westminster (Shaw Telecom)
604-559 Vancouver (Shaw Telecom)
604-620 Vancouver (Shaw Telecom)
604-651 Vancouver (Rogers Wireless)
604-652 Vancouver (Rogers Wireless)
604-653 Vancouver (Rogers Wireless)
604-655 Vancouver (Rogers Wireless)
604-670 West Vancouver (Iristel)
604-674 Vancouver (Distributel)
604-757 Vancouver (Iristel)
604-770 North Vancouver (Shaw Telecom)
604-774 Vancouver (Distributel)
604-900 Vancouver (Iristel)
604-901 Vancouver (Iristel)
778-200 Vancouver (Iristel)
778-255 Aldergrove (Telus Mobility)
778-264 North Vancouver (MTS Allstream)
778-289 Fort Langley (Bell West)
778-368 Whalley (Telus)
778-710 Vancouver (DAVE/Mobilicity)
778-712 Vancouver (DAVE/Mobilicity)
778-713 Vancouver (DAVE/Mobilicity)
778-714 Vancouver (DAVE/Mobilicity)
778-791 New Westminster (Telus Mobility)
778-792 New Westminster (Telus Mobility)
778-812 Vancouver (ISP Telecom)
778-813 Vancouver (ISP Telecom)
778-819 Vancouver (ISP Telecom)
778-820 North Vancouver (ISP Telecom)
778-825 Aldergrove (ISP Telecom)
778-826 Langley (ISP Telecom)
778-827 New Westminster (ISP Telecom)
778-830 Newton (ISP Telecom)
778-831 Port Coquitlam (ISP Telecom)
778-832 Richmond (ISP Telecom)
778-850 Cloverdale (ISP Telecom)
778-851 West Vancouver (ISP Telecom)
778-852 Whalley (ISP Telecom)
778-853 Fort Langley (ISP Telecom)
778-935 New Westminster (Rogers Wireless)
778-937 New Westminster (Rogers Wireless)


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[TheHardy]

70 of em, if I counted that all right ... Thanks Mike!

[TheHardy]

Jake, if you stumble across this, does it match up with your list?

[FONGO_steve]

Leave this with me - thanks

[TheHardy]

Leave this with me - thanks

No current rush on it -- I believe there are other tariff issues on the run at the time.

The more troubling thing in an overall sense is that some of these are the same culprits from many moons ago. So if the new system that is in place to automate the tariff is only parsing NEW information, then something ELSE needs to be put in place to go and deal with the HISTORIC errors too.

Not trying to complicate things or reinvent the wheel.

Maybe the new and pending changes will address this issue and make it moot??

[TheHardy]

I plugged these thru the manual ratechecker again, and a few are now at $0.00 (604-445, 446, 497, 778-368) ... the rest still seem to be incorrect.

As a sidenote, the "SHOW COMPLETE" list for Canada rates the above 3 as $0.02 still, even though the ratechecker shows them FREE.

Steve, now that you are back, care to weigh in on this? How often is the COMPLETE list updated against the "Place" where the ratechecker gets it's information??

[Jake]

Jake, if you stumble across this, does it match up with your list?

It was mentioned in another thread that there had been a big BC update. It seems so, mainly on the 778 and 604 numbers. 438 and 514 also seems to have been cleaned up a fair bit.

I recon there are still 373 npa-npx that need looking at as they should be free but are not. http://jasv.ca/fpl/notFree.php is my list.

I've not put this list up to nag at FPL, I can call all the areas I need to for free, it is just mainly to help others who are keeping track. This is based of a list of areas I think should be free, and not considered anything official.

There is also some 1380 odd npa-npx numbers that were listed up as free, when they shouldn't be (again calculated against my list). So overall the ones that we can call for free instead of being charged outweigh the ones we can't call but should be able to by a long way.

[TheHardy]

Jake, if you stumble across this, does it match up with your list?

It was mentioned in another thread that there had been a big BC update. It seems so, mainly on the 778 and 604 numbers. 438 and 514 also seems to have been cleaned up a fair bit.

I recon there are still 373 npa-npx that need looking at as they should be free but are not. http://jasv.ca/fpl/notFree.php is my list.

I've not put this list up to nag at FPL, I can call all the areas I need to for free, it is just mainly to help others who are keeping track. This is based of a list of areas I think should be free, and not considered anything official.

There is also some 1380 odd npa-npx numbers that were listed up as free, when they shouldn't be (again calculated against my list). So overall the ones that we can call for free instead of being charged outweigh the ones we can't call but should be able to by a long way.

Thanks for that Jake! I have not had the time to hand-bomb thru the ratechecker -- it seems that the "show complete" list is not updated very often at all -- a lot of the corrections that Steve said were made (and I verified with the individual rate look up tool) are NOT reflected in the "complete list".

I think that at times, the nagging is needed though, as I know things slip thru the cracks. While Steve does a yeoman's job (far and above what his title probably is!), it is hard for him to get them all -- and as I have said before, realistically, there should be a dedicated tariff/routes&rating department that should SO be on top of this, as well as any new ratecentres/exchanges etc).

At this moment, probably in another thread (I lose track!), I have the ongoing discussion about the HALIFAX LCA, and Steve has said that it is ONLY supposed to be HALIFAX itself and NOT it's associated LCA (odd, as this contradicts Kris's earlier posting about FPL observing traditional wireline LCAs). I too have noticed a few "new" undocumented additions (PM'd you as well I think) and I believe that will be part of the pending announcement when FonGo goes live and with some other bells and whistles thrown in. I've (politely, I think!) asked Steve to get us some clarification from whomever it is that determines LCA's, especially with the Halifax and Winnipeg issues -- hopefully it gets fired upstream and we can get some hard and fast rules on this.