Linksys ATA to 5 phone jacks

[seagame2001]

Hello

I have a friend he was with FPL couple months. He asked me how to run his Linksys ATA box to 5 telephone jacks. He did connect his linksys ATA box to one telephone jack and it gave dial tone to the other four jacks. However, his FPL did not ring when it had incoming calls. He could outgoing calls no problem.

any idea or tip to help him out?

[Jake]

The internal wiring is completely disconnected from the incoming line, isn't it? IE it has been disconnected from the Bell pair coming into the house.

[ButchCassidy]

Here's a starting point to explain why wiring 5 jacks to an ATA might not ring the phones as expected:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringer_equivalence_number

He can try one phone at the farthest away jack to see if it will ring incoming....trial and error, with different phones, adding by increment, but I would not expect to add 5 phones to a stock consumer ATA and have all of them ring, call display and all that stuff.

Hello

I have a friend he was with FPL couple months. He asked me how to run his Linksys ATA box to 5 telephone jacks. He did connect his linksys ATA box to one telephone jack and it gave dial tone to the other four jacks. However, his FPL did not ring when it had incoming calls. He could outgoing calls no problem.

any idea or tip to help him out?

[seagame2001]

The internal wiring is completely disconnected from the incoming line, isn't it? IE it has been disconnected from the Bell pair coming into the house.

Well he tested by splitter with two phone jack connect directly to ATA, the result that incoming calls did not rings at all


From what I know that he has cancel bell phone line and he started using FPL without disconnect the outside line coming into his house

I don't know Linksys ATA has enough output power to ring 5 phones

The main thing that he wanted to connect his fax machine and a phone with 3 headsets.

[Jake]

The internal wiring is completely disconnected from the incoming line, isn't it? IE it has been disconnected from the Bell pair coming into the house.

Well he tested by splitter with two phone jack connect directly to ATA, the result that incoming calls did not rings at all


From what I know that he has cancel bell phone line and he started using FPL without disconnect the outside line coming into his house

I don't know Linksys ATA has enough output power to ring 5 phones

The main thing that he wanted to connect his fax machine and a phone with 3 headsets.

If he has connected his ATA to the phone jack without physically disconnecting the incoming pair from outside, when the phone rings he is actually trying to make the whole Bell network ring He's going to need a bigger ATA for that!

The ATA should be able to ring 5 phones, but a lot of that depends on the REN number (which can be found on the phone). The easy way to test things is to disconnect all the phone and just plug one in. The wiring will not effect things at all, so you could have hundreds of jacks and it will still work. That's not a real world example, but you should get what I mean. If you plug a 100 phones in, then it won't work.

For starters he needs to make sure that the jacks are disconnected from Bell. Just canceling Bell is not enough, you need to get in there with cutter/screwdrivers. You can test this by placing a DC volt meter on the pair connected behind the jack. You shouldn't get anything.


One thing I should point out is id he has DSL he will obviously still need a live jack for the modem to work. In this case he will need to fiddle the wiring so the incoming pair goes to the jack that has the modem plugged into it and disconnect the rest of the house from this line. The, as he has already, plug the ATA into another wall jack. Th cable should have 2 pairs in it, so he should be able to again play around with the wires and he may need a double socket where the modem is. One that has the incoming line for the modem, and then he can use the spare pair in the cable to feed from the ATA back to where all the house cables join and connect it in there.

Obviously it all depends on how the house is wired, so this is just a guide.

[ButchCassidy]

Well said Jake. I just did a rewiring from my ATA to three jacks in my small apartment. Two of my handsets are powered by ac adapters. I have one cheapo Vtec handset with call display powered by the ATA. It rings but no callerID.

So I'd say that self-powered phones are generally a better bet with ATA setups.

cheerz

[seagame2001]

The internal wiring is completely disconnected from the incoming line, isn't it? IE it has been disconnected from the Bell pair coming into the house.

Well he tested by splitter with two phone jack connect directly to ATA, the result that incoming calls did not rings at all


From what I know that he has cancel bell phone line and he started using FPL without disconnect the outside line coming into his house

I don't know Linksys ATA has enough output power to ring 5 phones

The main thing that he wanted to connect his fax machine and a phone with 3 headsets.

If he has connected his ATA to the phone jack without physically disconnecting the incoming pair from outside, when the phone rings he is actually trying to make the whole Bell network ring He's going to need a bigger ATA for that!

The ATA should be able to ring 5 phones, but a lot of that depends on the REN number (which can be found on the phone). The easy way to test things is to disconnect all the phone and just plug one in. The wiring will not effect things at all, so you could have hundreds of jacks and it will still work. That's not a real world example, but you should get what I mean. If you plug a 100 phones in, then it won't work.

For starters he needs to make sure that the jacks are disconnected from Bell. Just canceling Bell is not enough, you need to get in there with cutter/screwdrivers. You can test this by placing a DC volt meter on the pair connected behind the jack. You shouldn't get anything.


One thing I should point out is id he has DSL he will obviously still need a live jack for the modem to work. In this case he will need to fiddle the wiring so the incoming pair goes to the jack that has the modem plugged into it and disconnect the rest of the house from this line. The, as he has already, plug the ATA into another wall jack. Th cable should have 2 pairs in it, so he should be able to again play around with the wires and he may need a double socket where the modem is. One that has the incoming line for the modem, and then he can use the spare pair in the cable to feed from the ATA back to where all the house cables join and connect it in there.

Obviously it all depends on how the house is wired, so this is just a guide.

I said to him what you posted on this topic

He said he will go out and open Bell box outside http://www.voipmyhouse.com/

[Jake]

I have an older house here, so all my wires come back to one central point in the basement. It made it all very easy. I have a couple of ATAs down there hooked up to my PBX, so I split out different parts of the house as different extensions. It's very handy when someone is on the phone and someone else needs it.

[morfao]

I recently hooked my linksys pap2 ata to my inside wiring and everything works wonderful.First,make sure the inside wiring is disconnected from the box outside.Lastly,make sure the voltage settings in the ata is set to 90 and that should do it.It worked well for me.

[seagame2001]

My friend, he got all his phone jacks in house rings now

He disconnected the wire from Bell box ran into his house