2 FPL lines using the same Internet Connection?

[donx]

Top of ATA 1 Line 2

[donx]

Bottom of ATA1 Line 2

[donx]

Line 1 and 2 on ATA 2 are similar, the only thing is that they FPL is on line 2 of ATA2 instead(it does specify 5061 in in SIP Port: setting), and line 1 of ATA2 uses port 5060 of another BBPGlobal SIP Server.

Please note that:

1. For Line 2 of ATA1, even though ATA specified it to use 5061, because I appended the port :5190 to the SIP server name, when I check the connections from my router, I noticed it does connect to 5190.

2. For line 2 of ATA2, even though ATA specified it to use 5061, and I did not append any port when connecting to FPL, when I check the connections from my router, I noticed it STILL connects to 5060 on FPL server. So I think what I specify (append to the SIP server name) in the SIP server name of ATA setting takes previlige. But appending :5061 or other ports to FPL SIP server name obviously does NOT work from my testing.

Thanks again!

[donx]

At one time, I tested that all 4 lines of the 2 ATAs are making/receiving calls without no problem. line 1 of ATA 1 (one FPL number) was calling external phone, line 2 of ATA2 (Another FPL number) was calling another external phone, and I tried to call from line 2 of ATA1 to line 1 of ATA2, all worked without any problem.

[FONGO_steve]

At one time, I tested that all 4 lines of the 2 ATAs are making/receiving calls without no problem. line 1 of ATA 1 (one FPL number) was calling external phone, line 2 of ATA2 (Another FPL number) was calling another external phone, and I tried to call from line 2 of ATA1 to line 1 of ATA2, all worked without any problem.

I was just going through my PM box here (it fills up faster than most can fathom). I sincerely apologize for overlooking your PM where I was going to test this in the office.
I didn't have access to two individual ATAs right now to do this quick, but one ATA with two lines configured and a third SIP phone with one line could all call in and out of each other on the same network/internet connection.

[donx]

At one time, I tested that all 4 lines of the 2 ATAs are making/receiving calls without no problem. line 1 of ATA 1 (one FPL number) was calling external phone, line 2 of ATA2 (Another FPL number) was calling another external phone, and I tried to call from line 2 of ATA1 to line 1 of ATA2, all worked without any problem.

I was just going through my PM box here (it fills up faster than most can fathom). I sincerely apologize for overlooking your PM where I was going to test this in the office.
I didn't have access to two individual ATAs right now to do this quick, but one ATA with two lines configured and a third SIP phone with one line could all call in and out of each other on the same network/internet connection.

Hi Steve, thanks for the reply. If that's the case, I think my issue is that 2 or my lines are on a little different networks (even though they share the same Internet Connection). My second ATA is linked to my main router through wireless repeater, the linked network of the second ATA has the IP pattern of 192.168.2.*** while the main network used by the first ATA is using the IP pattern of 192.168.1.***. If both of my ATAs are in the same identical wired network, they might be OK, but there is absolutely no way for me to link my 2 condo units through wired connection.

The reason why I can call from line 2 of ATA1 to line 1 of ATA2 without problem is that they are SSPGlobal lines and they connected to different SSPGlobal SIP servers with different ports (sip1.bbpglobal.com:5190 and sip2.bbpglobal.com:5060).

I am trying to figure out if by connecting to different ports of FPL servers (even though there is only one FPL SIP server) might do the same trick I successfully achieved for my two SSPGlobal lines, so my FPL phones ( line 1 of ATA1 and line 2 of ATA2 ) can call each other and hear each other (right now, no matter what I tried, line 2 of ATA2 can never hear line 1 of ATA1, but both sides can make calls to each other and can hear rings as well).

[zombie999]

Ok...now you gave us some new information. Other adapter is on a different network segment. What do you use as your wireless repeater? Initially you said you were using wireless bridge. Why do you have two different networks? Is your second adapter behind the second NAT? Or did you set up Vlan on your first router?

If your second adapter is behind second NAT, that is the cause of your problem. If this is the case, what you could do, is set up the second ATA to a static address on your main router and see if that helps.

Looking into your settings, I can see you have NAT mapping enable and NAT mapping keep alive set to YES for FPL. You need to have this turned off on ALL lines if you are not using port forwarding. So try turning this off on ALL lines.

Also try using the SAME sip server for both of your BBPglobal lines and see if that works. It should.

[donx]

Ok...now you gave us some new information. Other adapter is on a different network segment. What do you use as your wireless repeater? Initially you said you were using wireless bridge. Why do you have two different networks? Is your second adapter behind the second NAT? Or did you set up Vlan on your first router?

If your second adapter is behind second NAT, that is the cause of your problem. If this is the case, what you could do, is set up the second ATA to a static address on your main router and see if that helps.

Looking into your settings, I can see you have NAT mapping enable and NAT mapping keep alive set to YES for FPL. You need to have this turned off on ALL lines if you are not using port forwarding. So try turning this off on ALL lines.

Also try using the SAME sip server for both of your BBPglobal lines and see if that works. It should.

Hi, I have Linksys WRT54G flashed with DD-WRT firmware for both the main router and the repeater. For the repeater, I followed the following instructions for setting them up. I wish I could set them up to be like in the same network (both with the IP pattern of 192.168.1.*), but really don't know how to set it up through wireless network.

http://www.wi-fiplanet.com/tutorials/ar ... _3655041_1
http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Un ... s_Repeater

And I did disable firewall for the repeater. The second adapter is behind the repeater. The repeater has the second ATA's IP in the record, so it always has the same IP. I tried to play around with the settings to put the ATA even in DMZ of the repeater, but it does not seem to work.

Also, when I set up the my ata, I followed the recommendation from the following link:
http://www.toao.net/25-linksys-pap2t-vo ... ter-review

Since I put them behind router, according that review, I turned on NAT Mapping and NAT Keep Alive. I can try turning them off tomorrow and find out whether that will make any difference or not.

Thanks again for all your valuable help, much appreciated!

[zombie999]

I have 4 ATAs behind my routers and have NAT mapping and NAT keep alive turned off. So you don't need it if you are not using port forwarding. It probably won't make any difference but worth a try.

Based on the your network set up, your best bet is to set your second ATA with a static IP connected to you main router.

[donx]

I have 4 ATAs behind my routers and have NAT mapping and NAT keep alive turned off. So you don't need it if you are not using port forwarding. It probably won't make any difference but worth a try.

Based on the your network set up, your best bet is to set your second ATA with a static IP connected to you main router.

Hi zombie999, my problem is that there is no easy way to connect the second ATA directly to the main rounter (the second ATA can not act as a wireless client), to allow it to be wired to an Internet connection, the only affordable way I could find is through the Repeater mode from the DD-WRT firmware. Under my current setup, since BBPGlobal DOES work perfectly for my 2 BBPGlobal lines in 2 condo units, I do hope that one of my 2 FPL lines can do similar thing by connecting to FPL SIP Server's port other than 5060, or it will likely solve my problem if FPL has another SIP Server with different server port... Anyway, my case is really unique, I am fine with my 4 lines now (these 2 BBPGlobal lines are also free, thank you so much for the reference to it). Whenever the dedicated BBPGlobal line(phone) rings, we know it is from our other unit, it is just something to get used to now.

[zombie999]

You're welcome.
You don't have to connect the second ATA directly to your wireless connection. Leave it as is, disable DHCP and set it to a static IP address on your first router subnet (192.168.1.XXX). You can test this by simply trying to log in to your main router from your second condo. If it works, ATA will work too.

[donx]

You're welcome.
You don't have to connect the second ATA directly to your wireless connection. Leave it as is, disable DHCP and set it to a static IP address on your first router subnet (192.168.1.XXX). You can test this by simply trying to log in to your main router from your second condo. If it works, ATA will work too.

The thing is that the second ATA needs the repeater to "redirect" traffic, from the repeater's WAN interface, I have it setup as a static IP: 192.168.1.254, and from the repeater's LAN address, I set it as 192.168.2.254, the ATA is connected to one of the repeater's 4 LAN ports, and it always has a dedicated IP as 192.168.2.124 (when I tried port forwarding, I forwarded the ports to 192.168.2.124 after I forward ports from the main router to 192.168.1.254), I remember I initially set up the second ATA's IP as static of 192.168.2.124 and then changed it to dynamic, but because the Repeater records it previous IP associated with MAC, it always has the IP of 192.168.2.124. In fact, I even set up port forward for the web interface to the second ATA, and I can even check and admin all my 4 devices (2 ATAs, 1 router and 1 repeater) from my work externally.

For DHCP, it is set up just to easily assign IPs to other computers connected to the repeater (wired and wireless), and I can still manually assign certain clients (including the ATA) to a static IP if I want to.

I just don't know how I can set up the second ATA as 192.168.1.* (which is what the WAN interface is using) when in fact it is connected to the LAN port of the repeater and supposed to use 192.168.2.*.

[zombie999]

First...why are you using repeater mode? Why not use client bridge mode?
http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Wireless_Bridge

To set the second ATA to a static IP on the first router range:
-go to admin>advance>system tab
-set DHCP to no
-set static IP to an IP address outside the DHCP range of the first router. (e.g. if DHCP range is 192.168.1.10 - 192.168.1.100 set the ATA to 192.168.1.101)
-set the subnet mask 255.255.255.0 (or what ever you are using)
-set the gateway to the IP address of your first router
-submit all changes
-check the first page for the DNS server address. If you don't see one, go back to system tab and set it to your first router IP.
-submit all changes

Note that it's best you do this from behind your SECOND router. Once you set it like this you may not be able to access it from the other network segment. It would depend on your firewall and NAT.

[donx]

First...why are you using repeater mode? Why not use client bridge mode?
http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Wireless_Bridge

To set the second ATA to a static IP on the first router range:
-go to admin>advance>system tab
-set DHCP to no
-set static IP to an IP address outside the DHCP range of the first router. (e.g. if DHCP range is 192.168.1.10 - 192.168.1.100 set the ATA to 192.168.1.101)
-set the subnet mask 255.255.255.0 (or what ever you are using)
-set the gateway to the IP address of your first router
-submit all changes
-check the first page for the DNS server address. If you don't see one, go back to system tab and set it to your first router IP.
-submit all changes

Note that it's best you do this from behind your SECOND router. Once you set it like this you may not be able to access it from the other network segment. It would depend on your firewall and NAT.

Before I used Linksys WRT54G with DD-WRT flashed, I used GigaFast WF719-CAPR Wireless G router/bridge using its bridge mode, the wireless bridge mode only allows me to connect the computers in the second condo to use wired connections. The repeaters can allow the clients to connect BOTH wired and wireless (through its virtual wireless interface using a new SSID), so I changed to WRT54G with DD-WRT for its repeater mode (besides, DD-WRT allowed me to tweak TX Transmit Power settings to optimize the connection speed between the 2 routers). It looked like a better solution for me back then, but if setting up as bridge (vs repeater) can actually fix the problem, I guess I can sacrifice the rest of the computers by connecting them all through wires then. Before I do that, I think I will need carry the second ATA to the first unit, plug it directly to the main router and confirm this. Thanks again!

[donx]

Actually setting my second router as Repeater Bridge will get the benefit of both world:

http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Repeater_Bridge

I can continue have wireless access in my second condo, and I can also set the IP pattern of the second condo the same with the main router.

But anyway, I will start with the bridge mode first, I hope the performance will be better.

I used to use Linksys WRE54G to expand (bounce the signal to the second unit) the wireless network in my second condo and it worked very well, but it just does not support wired connection. Otherwise, it will be perfect.

[donx]

Good news, problem solved!!!!!!

zombie999, I owe you a beer.

I first tried to carry the ATA to the first condo where the main router resides, plug it in, everything works perfectly.

That's a great sign, I rushed back to the second unit, set it up as client bridge instead, and everything is working as expected.

I will leave it as the client bridge for now, and don't want to over-complicate things by setting it up as repeater bridge, besides the pure and simple bridge mode will certainly have the best performance.

If the second condo do need stable wireless network in the future, I can extend one of the LAN port of the second router to an AP and set up another subnet from that AP then.

[zombie999]

Cool....glad I could help!