using ethernet hub

[magdave]

we have a router, but it really messes up or FPL. we just got a laptop and we want to use the router to have wireless internet, but don't want to mess up the FPL. can we get a hub and put our internet to the router. and have our ATA go to the internet so the ATA doesn't use the router?

[bridonca]

You might able to do that, if the modem also has an integrated router. What is the model of the modem?

[leper1983]

Should try getting a new router with QoS

[bridonca]

I have to agree you should get a better router, or at least one that can use a 3rd party firmware like DD-WRT. If the hub is free, by all means, test it out, your modem could be up to the task. But if you are going to spend money, get another router. Kijiji has a ton of DD-WRT friendly routers for $20 or so.

[laurent]

Additionally, I would like to point out that some ATA devices not only have a router built-in, but they also take care of prioritizing the VoIP traffic. One model that I know can do this is the Grandstream HT502, which has separate LAN and WAN ports so it can manage traffic accordingly.

However, in my opinion, the best method remains to use a router with either DD-WRT or Tomato.

[zombie999]

we have a router, but it really messes up or FPL. we just got a laptop and we want to use the router to have wireless internet, but don't want to mess up the FPL. can we get a hub and put our internet to the router. and have our ATA go to the internet so the ATA doesn't use the router?

NEVER use hub with voip. Router does not give you wireless internet, a (home) router allows several devices to share an internet connection. A REAL router is bit different. For wireless you need a wireless access point.

So what you need is a router, a switch and an access point. You connect your ATA to the switch. Most home router have a router, switch and an access point all in one device.

If you are with rogers cable, you can buy an additional IP, then connect separate switch to the modem. This will allow your ATA to get a public IP. Then you connect you access point to the switch as well for your wi-fi.

Never use a hub.

[OverDrive]

we have a router, but it really messes up or FPL. we just got a laptop and we want to use the router to have wireless internet, but don't want to mess up the FPL. can we get a hub and put our internet to the router. and have our ATA go to the internet so the ATA doesn't use the router?

NEVER use hub with voip. Router does not give you wireless internet, a (home) router allows several devices to share an internet connection. A REAL router is bit different. For wireless you need a wireless access point.

So what you need is a router, a switch and an access point. You connect your ATA to the switch. Most home router have a router, switch and an access point all in one device.

If you are with rogers cable, you can buy an additional IP, then connect separate switch to the modem. This will allow your ATA to get a public IP. Then you connect you access point to the switch as well for your wi-fi.

Never use a hub.

I agree with your last sentence - never use a hub. However I really disagree with your other statements with regarding buying another ip from rogers and stuff.

magdave - the simple answer is do what zombie says. The PROPER answer is this:

Buy a decent router that is on the supported list for DD-WRT and flash it with either DD-WRT or Tomato Firmware. It will be a wireless 4 port switching router at either 10/100 or 10/100/1000 (depending on which model you get). Setup the router to have a DHCP Reservation for your VOIP Box, and then setup port forwarding to the voip box. Setup your wireless network and secure it with WPA2/AES and a key that's a "sentence" that you will remember.

You wont have any other problems, and this will be the best option. - My professional opinion (I'm an MCSE:Security)

[zombie999]

and have our ATA go to the internet so the ATA doesn't use the router?

However I really disagree with your other statements with regarding buying another ip from rogers and stuff.

And how would they achieve above without buying additional IP? Not that I say that's smart but that would be the only solution if they don't want the ATA to use the router.

[OverDrive]

and have our ATA go to the internet so the ATA doesn't use the router?

However I really disagree with your other statements with regarding buying another ip from rogers and stuff.

And how would they achieve above without buying additional IP? Not that I say that's smart but that would be the only solution if they don't want the ATA to use the router.

For what you've quoted, and what they said, absolutely you're correct - that's the ONLY way to do it if you need to do it that way specifically.

However,

There is a better way, and that's what I explained in my answer.

magdave - the simple answer is do what zombie says. The PROPER answer is this:

Buy a decent router that is on the supported list for DD-WRT and flash it with either DD-WRT or Tomato Firmware. It will be a wireless 4 port switching router at either 10/100 or 10/100/1000 (depending on which model you get). Setup the router to have a DHCP Reservation for your VOIP Box, and then setup port forwarding to the voip box. Setup your wireless network and secure it with WPA2/AES and a key that's a "sentence" that you will remember.

You wont have any other problems, and this will be the best option. - My professional opinion (I'm an MCSE:Security)

[laurent]

Ì totally agree with OverDrive. This is the way to go. A real router (WRT54GL for example, are quite inexpensive) and a real router firmware (I do love Tomato).

[OverDrive]

Ì totally agree with OverDrive. This is the way to go. A real router (WRT54GL for example, are quite inexpensive) and a real router firmware (I do love Tomato).

And I prefer DD-WRT cause you can do so much more with it (that I find)

I have 2 wireless networks - 1 is internet only and totally segregated for when I bring customer computers home that may have a virus..... and the other is my wireless network with full access to the network.

Not to mention, I have a vpn server setup in the router too so I can vpn in from anywhere...

[laurent]

Ì totally agree with OverDrive. This is the way to go. A real router (WRT54GL for example, are quite inexpensive) and a real router firmware (I do love Tomato).

And I prefer DD-WRT cause you can do so much more with it (that I find)

I have 2 wireless networks - 1 is internet only and totally segregated for when I bring customer computers home that may have a virus..... and the other is my wireless network with full access to the network.

Not to mention, I have a vpn server setup in the router too so I can vpn in from anywhere...

These are very interesting features. I use Tomato especially because it supports MLPPP, which I need to remove Bell's limitation on DSL speeds. Let's hope the recent CTRC ruling will help, but I am not holding my breath.

[OverDrive]

Ì totally agree with OverDrive. This is the way to go. A real router (WRT54GL for example, are quite inexpensive) and a real router firmware (I do love Tomato).

And I prefer DD-WRT cause you can do so much more with it (that I find)

I have 2 wireless networks - 1 is internet only and totally segregated for when I bring customer computers home that may have a virus..... and the other is my wireless network with full access to the network.

Not to mention, I have a vpn server setup in the router too so I can vpn in from anywhere...

These are very interesting features. I use Tomato especially because it supports MLPPP, which I need to remove Bell's limitation on DSL speeds. Let's hope the recent CTRC ruling will help, but I am not holding my breath.

MLPPP is supported on some versions of DD-WRT - mini and micro excluded. If you have a WRT54GL, you're set for MLPPP. I just googled it, cause I'm surprised that DD-WRT wouldn't support it...

I have no need for it as i'm with Cogeco... expensive, but stable and lightning fast (14Mbit/1Mbit)... but has the damn transfer cap... I need a new entrance wire into my house if I ever decide to go to DSL... mine burnt out in the storms at the end of this past March... had to cancel Bell and move to FPL before my "contract' was up with Bell... luckily, the eventual person on the phone waived the early cancellation charges as they couldn't provide me service, and wouldn't drill the entrance wire "cause it's a blind drilling" and they're not allowed to do that.

Anyways, back to the topic.

[laurent]

Just to finish the off-topic conversation, MLPPP on DD-WRT is experimental at best, and new. Tomato has had a mlppp build for a long, long time. Ever since Bell started throttling, Tomato/MLPPP has been the only firmware router that supported it. Only other choice was to run the modem on a linux or windows system with some tweaks, and even that had issues.

Also, caps blow. I'm with teksavvy for 200GB and it's really, really useful (to me). But I do with I had cable speeds.