Does it matters with 5060 or 5061?

[bsun99]

Does it matters with 5060 or 5061 for a voice line of ATA?

For ATA SIP settings, we can set SIP port to either 5060 or 5061 for line 1, right?

Thanks.

[zombie999]

You can probably go even higher 5062,3,4,5,6...

[donx]

I am not clear whether this port is for server or client, because no matter what I set there, 5060 or 5061, (or even 6060/6061), when I checked my router status, the one on FPL SIP Server connected from me always shows as 5060.

What is makes difference is appending the port number to the SIP Server Name:, at least that's what I did when connecting to BBPGlobal's server 5190 port, even though the port number was using 5060, I appended 5190 to its SIP Server name, and it connects to 5190.

However, when I tried to append other ports than 5060 to FPL, the connection always failed.

[bridonca]

For me, the port change allowed me to reliably get incoming calls. I already have VOIP gear that uses port 5060, and getting an incoming call was a crap shoot until I got freephoneline it's own port to play with. I thing you have from ports 5060 to 6060 to choose from.

Oh yeah, make sure you configure the router to point whatever port you selected to the ATA. Otherwise it is a pointless exercise.

[zombie999]

There are two different ports that your ATA uses.

Port to connect to a SIP server. This is by default port 5060. So when you specify server voip.freephoneline.ca, it will connect to it on port 5060. Some SIP servers use different port numbers. In that case you need to append that server port number to the address. Like sip.bbpglobal.com:5190. FPL obviously uses default SIP port and will not accept connections on other ports. This works the same way when you type http://www.google.com in your web browser. It will connect on the default port 80.

The other port that you can specify in your ATA is SIP PORT for incoming connections. This is the port, where the SIP server will contact your ATA when you receive an incoming call. You can usually specify this port within a certain range (5060-5080). If your ATA has two lines, this port number cannot be same on different lines.

[Scoponox]

What is the point of having a SIP port over the 5060 FreePhoneline port?

[zombie999]

What is the point of having a SIP port over the 5060 FreePhoneline port?

-if your ISP is blocking port 5060
-if you have more than one ATA and decide to forward ports. You can only forward one port to one destination. However you can have multiply ATA without any port forwarding and all using same port 5060. I know I do.

[bsun99]

There are two different ports that your ATA uses.

Port to connect to a SIP server. This is by default port 5060. So when you specify server voip.freephoneline.ca, it will connect to it on port 5060. Some SIP servers use different port numbers. In that case you need to append that server port number to the address. Like sip.bbpglobal.com:5190. FPL obviously uses default SIP port and will not accept connections on other ports. This works the same way when you type http://www.google.com in your web browser. It will connect on the default port 80.

The other port that you can specify in your ATA is SIP PORT for incoming connections. This is the port, where the SIP server will contact your ATA when you receive an incoming call. You can usually specify this port within a certain range (5060-5080). If your ATA has two lines, this port number cannot be same on different lines.

Now I am a little clear:

SIP Server port: 5060 (default, and non-default port should be appended to proxy server address)
ATA incomming call SIP Port: can be any port bwtween 5060 and 5080

For ATA SIP settings, SIP PORTs are actually filled in for incomming connections.

My ATA has two Voice Lines. If I want to configure the two Voice Lines, I have to set line 1 and line 2 to different SIP ports for incomming calls no matter what SIP Server proxies are and their ports are used, right?

[zombie999]

You are correct. Incoming SIP port on Line 1 & 2 cannot be the same. By default Line 1 is 5060 and Line 2 is 5061.
You can have same provider on both lines with the same SIP proxy if you wish to.

[bsun99]

You are correct. Incoming SIP port on Line 1 & 2 cannot be the same. By default Line 1 is 5060 and Line 2 is 5061.
You can have same provider on both lines with the same SIP proxy if you wish to.

Can I have the same provider on both lines with the same sip proxy and the same user id (ie, two lines with the same phone number) so I can use line 1 for a phone set and line 2 for another phone set (or a fax machine)?

(I am just curious ... and have not tried ...)

If so, both phones will ring when there is an incoming call, right?
If so, can both phones make calls at the same time?

[zombie999]

You can have same provider on both lines but not same user ID/account. Some providers let you set up a clone line that will work in the way you describe it. Ribbit and Sipgate comes to mind but there are more. FPL does not allow it.

[jgionet76]

it seems my provider is blocking both port 5060 and 5061 as I can't get ANY UDP traffic to go through at all. If I try a lower UDP port I can see the traffic on my UDP scanner.

what are my options? I have an ata with another provider until I get switched to FPL. (so I'm guessing that's what is currently using those 2 ports)

thxs

[FONGO_kris]

That would make sense since those are pretty common voice ports. You are able to use any port in theory, our server doesn't restrict you to only using those two ports.

[jgionet76]

That would make sense since those are pretty common voice ports. You are able to use any port in theory, our server doesn't restrict you to only using those two ports.

ok.. I did some more tests.. it seems I can send UDP traffic between ports 1 and 1023.. anything above that I can't get my port scan to respond at the other end.
I've checked my firewall (running Tomato firmware) and I don't see anything blocking those ports.
I've even disable my Windows 7 firewall completely and still no go.

how could I change the ports from 5060 to something below 1023?

what still baffles me is this.. I set my FPS windows client (softphone) to use port 1019 (which I was able to test successfully for traffic to my computer) and it still throws out that "port 1019 should be available error".

[beverly]

try it... i've gone to high as 10,000 before and as low a 80 and it still registers with FPL. you could choose any 4 numbers ramdomly and it still doesn't make a difference.

[zombie999]

what still baffles me is this.. I set my FPS windows client (softphone) to use port 1019 (which I was able to test successfully for traffic to my computer) and it still throws out that "port 1019 should be available error".

Can you place / receive calls? I always get that error with their softphone, however everything works just fine.

[jgionet76]

what still baffles me is this.. I set my FPS windows client (softphone) to use port 1019 (which I was able to test successfully for traffic to my computer) and it still throws out that "port 1019 should be available error".

Can you place / receive calls? I always get that error with their softphone, however everything works just fine.

yeah.. just discovered today that I could still make and receive calls.. even thought I get that error.. go figure