Simultaneous calls?

Share your tips, tricks and best practise ideas for Fongo services in here!
FlashEngineer
Just Passing Thru
Posts: 8
Joined: 12/22/2010

Simultaneous calls?

Post by FlashEngineer »

I have been using an existing SIP service voip.ms, it is great but costly compared to FPL for Canada calling. So I got the $50 config from FPL. I'm wondering if FPL supports simultaneous calls out or in if I register twice on my SPA2102, I know you can do that with voip.ms having sub accounts.

It's good feature so say my wife is on the phone, I can call out on line 2, instead of using my cell.
User avatar
Jake
Technical Support
Posts: 2837
Joined: 10/18/2009

Re: Simultaneous calls?

Post by Jake »

FPL will only allow you to register one device at a time, but having said that it is, you are able to make to calls 2 calls at the same time.

I have not tried to set up an ATA to do this, but I do have a PBX running on a computer here, and dialling through that I am able to have two calls going at the same time, which is really handy when one of the kids is on the phone and someone else needs to call in, or we need to call out.

I can't think of a way with doing it straight with an ATA though, unless you can register your FPL account with someone like pbxes.org then register both lines on your ATA to them. I believe they will allow you to register two devices at once, so it could work.
FlashEngineer
Just Passing Thru
Posts: 8
Joined: 12/22/2010

Re: Simultaneous calls?

Post by FlashEngineer »

So I would need a PBX... how is that really different than say having registered FPL on my ATA then on my android sip client. MY ATA which is the spa2102 supports 2 simultaneous calls, I right now have Line 1 under voip.ms and line 2 under FPL, it works fine, just wanted to put both on FPL.
curriegrad2004
Active Poster
Posts: 68
Joined: 09/03/2010
SIP Device Name: FreeSwitch SoftSwitch
Firmware Version: Latest Git
ISP Name: Telus HSI/Rogers 3G
Computer OS: Windows 7
Router: Netfilter with SIP ALG
Location: CYVR - Runway 26L

Re: Simultaneous calls?

Post by curriegrad2004 »

ATA's are a different ball game here. A Softswitch like FreeSwitch or a PBX like Asterisk can handle this easily. You can have 2 different devices registered to the Softswitch and in turn have the softswitch register to the FPL server.

At that point, you'll have to configure the routing and what not so the 2 different devices will ring at the same time when a call comes in. Same goes with the outgoing dialplans.
FlashEngineer
Just Passing Thru
Posts: 8
Joined: 12/22/2010

Re: Simultaneous calls?

Post by FlashEngineer »

Well I really don't care about ringing, since all the phones are in my home, if it rings line1 line2, then so be it? That really doesn't matter at all.

I don't see how a PBX can handle outgoing dialplan differently than my ATA can, since it has 2 separate lines. I guess I can try and register on both line1 and line2 to see if that works...
curriegrad2004
Active Poster
Posts: 68
Joined: 09/03/2010
SIP Device Name: FreeSwitch SoftSwitch
Firmware Version: Latest Git
ISP Name: Telus HSI/Rogers 3G
Computer OS: Windows 7
Router: Netfilter with SIP ALG
Location: CYVR - Runway 26L

Re: Simultaneous calls?

Post by curriegrad2004 »

FreeSwitch is a softswitch that can be effectively used as a PBX if you wanted to. I find it a lot more flexible and powerful compared to Asterisk. I can configure a group of extensions to ring basically create an incoming dialplan that can detect faxes within the first 5 seconds of the call.

However, the use of any PBX's on FPL are 'unsupported', so use with caution.
tbrummell
Tried and True
Posts: 330
Joined: 09/21/2010
SIP Device Name: PIAF/Mitel/PolyCom/Cisco
Firmware Version: Asterisk 1.8
ISP Name: Rogers
Computer OS: CentOS/Windows2008/Win7/Android
Router: pfSense/Neoware thin client
Location: Ottawa

Re: Simultaneous calls?

Post by tbrummell »

curriegrad2004 wrote:FreeSwitch is a softswitch that can be effectively used as a PBX if you wanted to. I find it a lot more flexible and powerful compared to Asterisk. I can configure a group of extensions to ring basically create an incoming dialplan that can detect faxes within the first 5 seconds of the call.
Ummmm, Asterisk does all of that too...
User avatar
Jake
Technical Support
Posts: 2837
Joined: 10/18/2009

Re: Simultaneous calls?

Post by Jake »

FlashEngineer wrote:Well I really don't care about ringing, since all the phones are in my home, if it rings line1 line2, then so be it? That really doesn't matter at all.

I don't see how a PBX can handle outgoing dialplan differently than my ATA can, since it has 2 separate lines. I guess I can try and register on both line1 and line2 to see if that works...
As I see it, your ATA is basically two devices, so if you register both line one and line two, then they will start knocking each other out as they fight for being 'the one registered device'.

I have not tried it though, so let us know how it goes. What I expect you will find it that you will always be able to dial out on both lines, but incoming calls will be inconsistent as to which line(s) rings. I have a feeling it will depend a lot on when you last made a call out, and when each line tried to re-register.

Maybe Kris or Steve could input a bit here.