Connect HT801's phone port to OBI-110's FXO port
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Connect HT801's phone port to OBI-110's FXO port
Fongo Home Phone is good. But the fact that Fongo locks the HT801 ATA sucks.
I have an Obihai OBI-110 unit. Can I connect HT801's phone port to OBI-110's FXO port, and then connect OBI-110's FXS phone port to a phone.
The reason I am doing that is that I can use OBI-110's advanced call-routing feature.
For incoming calls, it is HT801's phone port -> OBI-110's FXO port -> OBI-110's FXS port -> Phone
For outgoing calls, it is Phone -> OBI-110's FXS port -> OBI-110's FXO port -> HT801's phone port -> outside
Will such set-up work?
I have an Obihai OBI-110 unit. Can I connect HT801's phone port to OBI-110's FXO port, and then connect OBI-110's FXS phone port to a phone.
The reason I am doing that is that I can use OBI-110's advanced call-routing feature.
For incoming calls, it is HT801's phone port -> OBI-110's FXO port -> OBI-110's FXS port -> Phone
For outgoing calls, it is Phone -> OBI-110's FXS port -> OBI-110's FXO port -> HT801's phone port -> outside
Will such set-up work?
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Re: Connect HT801's phone port to OBI-110's FXO port
To do what?torontovoipnewuserx wrote: ↑10/13/2024 The reason I am doing that is that I can use OBI-110's advanced call-routing feature.
I was initially going to say that you can’t take advantage of call routing features by isolating usage to the FXO port, but I'm not positive because I can't test. You can't use Fongo Home Phone's SIP credentials in an Obihai ATA, so I believe attempting to use the Obihai ATA to bridge calls to another destination based on incoming caller ID number isn't going to work unless you're using another service provider in addition to Fongo Home Phone to create the second call; and if you're using another service provider, that runs outside to scope of these forums. In other words, I don't think you can get the Obihai ATA to automatically bridge two active calls over the FXO port using Fongo Home Phone because a single active call should occupy the FXO line. I could be wrong, and I don't have an OBi110 or OB212 with an FXO port to test.
You can ask at https://www.dslreports.com/forum/voip and at https://www.obitalk.com/forum/index.php, but I suspect the Obitalk forums will be gone after October 31, 2024.
If you just want to drop certain incoming caller ID numbers directly to Fongo Home Phone's voicemail system, then I would look for a phone that does what you want instead of running two ATAs simultaneously.
By the way, Freephoneline doesn't permit 302 to Call Forward. X_Use302ToCallForward needs to be disabled. I suspect that's the same for Fongo Home Phone, but I'm not positive. That really only matters if you could get Fongo Home Phone's SIP username and password working on an OBi110, and that's not permitted.
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Re: Connect HT801's phone port to OBI-110's FXO port
Essentially I want to daisy-chain HT801 and OBI110 together (since Fongo locks HT801, so I want to use OBI110 as the real VOIP-ATA, and use HT801 just as a pure conduit). Is it possible?
So that when a call comes to HT801, it will originally ring the HT801's phone port. But now since that HT801's phone port is connected to OBI110's FXO port, so can OBI110 be fooled into thinking that there is a call coming to its FXO port and it will then ring its FXS (phone) port?
And also the other way around, when I pick up the OBI110's FXS port's phone and make an outbound FXO-bound call, OBI110 will then send the signal to its FXO port, and then hopefully the signal will seamlessly flow into HT801's FXS port, fooling HT801 into thinking there is an outgoing call request and then execute it?
I do not intend to set up FPL or any VOIP service in OBI110. I just want to use OBI110 to control HT801 (since Fongo does not allow me to custom-config HT801).
So that when a call comes to HT801, it will originally ring the HT801's phone port. But now since that HT801's phone port is connected to OBI110's FXO port, so can OBI110 be fooled into thinking that there is a call coming to its FXO port and it will then ring its FXS (phone) port?
And also the other way around, when I pick up the OBI110's FXS port's phone and make an outbound FXO-bound call, OBI110 will then send the signal to its FXO port, and then hopefully the signal will seamlessly flow into HT801's FXS port, fooling HT801 into thinking there is an outgoing call request and then execute it?
I do not intend to set up FPL or any VOIP service in OBI110. I just want to use OBI110 to control HT801 (since Fongo does not allow me to custom-config HT801).
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Re: Connect HT801's phone port to OBI-110's FXO port
I understood that from your initial post.
I still have no idea why you want to do that. If you don't want to block calls or bridge/join incoming calls elsewhere based on incoming caller ID number, then what advantage exists? Oh, is it so that you can connect to a PBX?
The only other use I see is if there's another service provisioned on the OBi110 and if you want to use the second service to bridge/connect calls together, or if you want to have incoming calls, based on caller ID number, to drop straight to Fongo's voicemail system.
The incoming and outgoing calls are still being processed by the HT-801 no matter what, if you're using Fongo Home Phone's service.
Except you're not because the OBi110 isn't acting as the SIP client, no matter what you do. The HT-801 is.(since Fongo locks HT801, so I want to use OBI110 as the real VOIP-ATA
The HT-801 is doing all the SIP signalling. You can't use Fongo Home Phone's SIP Username and SIP Password on your OBi110.
Again, I don't have an OBi110 or OBi212, but if I just wanted to send and receive calls via OBi110's FXO/PSTN port, without doing anything else differently, why not just use a phone attached to the HT-801 instead?
You start off by stating that you want to take advantage of "OBI-110's advanced call-routing feature", but then you're not using X_InboundCallRoute to do anything useful (or you're not telling me), as far as I can tell. So I don't know why anyone would want to do this.
Anyway, without ever having tested, I think it's possible to receive and send calls via FXO. I just don't see the point in this situation since the OBI110 is merely replacing the telephone that would otherwise be attached to the HT-801. Nothing else has changed. You're not circumventing the HT-801 at all, if that's what you're trying to do. The OBi110 can’t route calls if there’s no other service provider involved; it may be able to drop calls to Fongo’s voicemail system based on inbound caller ID though.
If you want to make sure FXO calls will work, test yourself, or you can ask at https://www.dslreports.com/forum/voip and at https://www.obitalk.com/forum/index.php, where people have actually used your ATA, but I suspect the Obitalk forums will be gone after October 31, 2024.
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Re: Connect HT801's phone port to OBI-110's FXO port
HT801 does not offer any advanced call-routing feature. It is a bare-bone ATA down to the lowest level, the same tu_d as the old HT701, just under a new shiny coat.
Let's say, there is an incoming call, say 1-123-456-7890. HT801 would just ring the phone port.
But if I can have HT801 send this call to the OBI110's FXO port, then in OBI110, I can set up sophisticated call-routing, for example:
All incoming 1-123-xxx-xxxx calls are scam calls, and OBI110 will reject them.
For all other calls, OBI110 will ring its FXS phone port.
etc. (There is so much I can do with OBI110's call-routing capability.)
Let's say, there is an incoming call, say 1-123-456-7890. HT801 would just ring the phone port.
But if I can have HT801 send this call to the OBI110's FXO port, then in OBI110, I can set up sophisticated call-routing, for example:
All incoming 1-123-xxx-xxxx calls are scam calls, and OBI110 will reject them.
For all other calls, OBI110 will ring its FXS phone port.
etc. (There is so much I can do with OBI110's call-routing capability.)
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Re: Connect HT801's phone port to OBI-110's FXO port
Yes, I'm aware.
All incoming 1-123-xxx-xxxx calls are scam calls, and OBI110 will reject them.
Liptonbrisk wrote:If you just want to drop certain incoming caller ID numbers directly to Fongo Home Phone's voicemail system, then I would look for a phone that does what you want instead of running two ATAs simultaneously.
Liptonbrisk wrote:or if you want to have incoming calls, based on caller ID number, to drop straight to Fongo's voicemail system
That's, as an example, {(MTelemarketers):} where MTelemarketers is the user-defined DigitMap called Telemarketers. Incoming caller IDs matching Telemarketers digitmap will drop straight to Fongo Home Phone's voicemail system, but you may be able to do the same thing with a cordless phone anyway with a call block feature that can match wildcards, as I noted previously. As such, if all you're doing is blocking incoming numbers based on CID or a prefix wildcard, I feel attaching the OBi110 isn't useful, as you're introducing an additional point of failure.
I have Obihai ATAs and Obiahi IP Phones. I use them, and I am rather familiar with this guide, viewtopic.php?p=73839#p73839, which discusses how to block and route incoming calls elsewhere (and also how to create whitelists). I also route calls using other services.(There is so much I can do with OBI110's call-routing capability.)
If you have no other service provider provisioned on an Obihai ATA or don't have access to another via a PBX/Asterisk (you can register an SP on Asterisk, which would suddenly make this scenario more interesting, in my opinion . . . except I'm not going to offer technical support for it), you're not routing calls anywhere else. I believe all you're able to do, in terms of call handling is to either drop the incoming call to Fongo Home Phone's voicemail system using ":" (the dropped call is sent to Fongo Home Phone's voicemail system) or send the call the AA (Auto Attendant). As I mentioned before, since the Line (FXO) port is occupied with the incoming call, I don't believe you'll be able to create another call using Fongo Home Phone over the Line (FXO) port and bridge the two calls together using the OBi110, but I'm not entirely positive either, as I don't own an OBi110,OBi212, or OBi312, which all have Line ports, and can't test. That's why I suggested that you test earlier or ask elsewhere. I don't have an Obihai ATA with a Line (Li) port.
Since no other service is provisioned on the OBi110 (and you stated you're not using any other service), it's not as though you can route calls using any SP, and if my suspicion is correct that multiple calls over the Line port don't work simultaneously, then you can't send incoming calls anywhere except to Fongo Home Phone's voicemail system by dropping them using ":" or to AA (Auto Attendant).
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Re: Connect HT801's phone port to OBI-110's FXO port
Thanks Liptonbrisk so much for being patient and spending time reading my rant.
OK. Let's go back the basic (physical connection aspect) question - If I use a RJ11 cable to connect HT801's phone port to OBI110's FXO port, and I connect a phone to OBI110's FXS phone port, then
Can HT801 send incoming calls to OBI110 for processing?
Can OBI110 send outgoing calls to HT801 for processing?
( What I can/want to do with such a unique daisy-chain set-up is entirely up to me. )
OK. Let's go back the basic (physical connection aspect) question - If I use a RJ11 cable to connect HT801's phone port to OBI110's FXO port, and I connect a phone to OBI110's FXS phone port, then
Can HT801 send incoming calls to OBI110 for processing?
Can OBI110 send outgoing calls to HT801 for processing?
( What I can/want to do with such a unique daisy-chain set-up is entirely up to me. )
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Re: Connect HT801's phone port to OBI-110's FXO port
torontovoipnewuserx wrote:OK. Let's go back the basic (physical connection aspect) question - If I use a RJ11 cable to connect HT801's phone port to OBI110's FXO port, and I connect a phone to OBI110's FXS phone port, then
Can HT801 send incoming calls to OBI110 for processing?
Can OBI110 send outgoing calls to HT801 for processing?
I don't feel there's anything more I can say (I think it can work, but I'm not positive that it will since I've never tested). I can't guarantee that it will work, and I'm even less certain that switching between Fongo Home Phone calls during call waiting would work properly from a phone attached to the phone port on an OBi110.Liptonbrisk wrote:Anyway, without ever having tested, I think it's possible to receive and send calls via FXO. I just don't see the point in this situation since the OBI110 is merely replacing the telephone that would otherwise be attached to the HT-801. Nothing else has changed. You're not circumventing the HT-801 at all, if that's what you're trying to do. The OBi110 can’t route calls if there’s no other service provider involved; it may be able to drop calls to Fongo’s voicemail system based on inbound caller ID though.
If you want to make sure FXO calls will work, test yourself, or you can ask at https://www.dslreports.com/forum/voip and at https://www.obitalk.com/forum/index.php, where people have actually used your ATA, but I suspect the Obitalk forums will be gone after October 31, 2024.
Primary Line needs to be set to PSTN.
Physical Interfaces -> PHONE Port -> PrimaryLine--> PSTN Line
Line DigitMap: (1xxxxxxxxxx|011XX.S3|[2-9]xxxxxxxxx|*98|[2-9]11|988)
You're probably better off asking at the two sites I mentioned above. I've never used an Obihai ATA with a Line port.
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