Dial Strings - Configuration Tips, Debugging Help, etc...

[volenin]

I wonder why the recommended dial string has no 'S0' terminators....? At least for the Linksys ATAs, from my experience they should be in to avoid waiting 5-10 seconds (depending on the default setting - can't recall exactly) before the ATA is actually making a call. From my understanding, for the 'non terminated' strings the ATA is waiting some default period of time for the user to press the button on the phone and only if it doesn't detect the key being pressed (ie, you already finished dialing your 7 or 8 digit number), THEN it actually dials out.

It's probably worthwhile to update the 'recommended dial string' to the one with the 'S0' terminators, as per Linksys Sipura config guides...

Vlad

[FONGO_kris]

Not sure while one is in there now. A few people got... Touchy when it came to this. I had:

(911S0|[2-9]xxxxxxxxxS0|1[2-9]xxxxxxxxxS0|011[1-9]x.)

Which basically does what it says:

(911S0|

Dials 911 "Straight Out"

[2-9]xxxxxxxxxS0|

Dials any number consistent of regular in-country dialing

1[2-9]xxxxxxxxxS0|

Dials any number consistent of LONG DISTANCE in-country dialing

011[1-9]x.)

International calling (if permitted by your phone number/calling plan) starting with 011, the any digit from 1-9, to an infinite number of digits (until a 1 second pause)

ANYWAYS!!!:

Here's some helpful hints if you want to try and create your own... Try to keep ours on file if you mess it up though!!!

General Dial Plan Rules:

1. Accept Digits: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0 , *, #, A,a,B,b,C,c,D,d

2. Grammar: x - any digit from 0-9;

a. xx+ - at least 2 digits number;

b. xx. – at least 2 digits number;

c. ^ - exclude;

d. [3-5] - any digit of 3, 4, or 5;

e. [147] - any digit 1, 4, or 7;

f. <2=011> - replace digit 2 with 011 when dialing

g. S0 - dials the number after the last accepted digit is dialed

• Example 1: {[369]11 | 1617xxxxxxx} – Allow 311, 611, 911, and any 10 digit

numbers of leading digits 1617

• Example 2: {^1900x+ | <=1617>xxxxxxx} – Block any number of leading digits

1900 and add prefix 1617 for any dialed 7 digit numbers

• Example 3: {1xxx[2-9]xxxxxx | <2=011>x+} – Allow any length of number with

leading digit 2 and 10 digit-numbers of leading digit 1 and leading exchange

number between 2 and 9; if leading digit is 2, replace leading digit 2 with 011

before dialing.

3. Default: Outgoing - {x+}

Example of a simple dial plan used in a Home/Office in the US:

{ ^1900x. | <=1617>[2-9]xxxxxx | 1[2-9]xx[2-9]xxxxxx | 011[2-9]x. | [3469]11 }

Explanation of example rule (reading from left to right):

• ^1900x. - prevents dialing any number started with 1900

• <=1617>[2-9]xxxxxx - allows dialing to local area code (617) numbers by dialing

7 numbers and 1617 area code will be added automatically

• 1[2-9]xx[2-9]xxxxxx |- allows dialing to any US/Canada Number with 11 digits

length

• 011[2-9]x. - allows international calls starting with 011

• [3469]11 - allow dialing special and emergency numbers 311, 411, 611 and 911

Note: In some cases user wishes to dial strings such as *123 to activate voice mail

or other application provided by service provider. In this case * should be predefined

inside dial plan feature and the Dial Plan should be: { [x*]+ }.

[volenin]

Yes, that's what I mean - I believe this is the excerpt from one of the Linksys guides that you posted (very helpful - thanks). My point though is that while some people DO dig these things out (my config string is 2-3 times the length of the recommended one), others - do not. In which case they end up disappointed, thinking it's the problem with the service (which, in THIS case, it is not). I recall that the first time I was dialing out with the 'recommended dial string' (ie, BEFORE I discovered the 'S0' trick), I had to wait 10-15 seconds for EACH of my call to get connected.... Not the greatest customer experience.... Anyways, it was just a suggestion.

[FONGO_kris]

We're always open to those

Here is why we use the one we use - Though I DO agree with you 100%...

Allows 911

Allows any number to be dialed 10 digit length beginning with 2-9

Allows any number to be dialed 11 digit (for support within South America where 011 does not qualify as it technically still within our NPA +1; such as Jamaica.

Allows any 011 call to be placed with maximum of 12 digits in addition to 011

Allows *98 to be dialed

Allows any 6-7+whatever number of digits to be dialed which permits use of ATA specific calling features, Such as callwaiting diabled, call return, etc…..

[jgionet76]

how would I add a default area code of 705 for my dial plan?
I'm trying to figure out this formula you guys are using and it's bit over my head right now!

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(911|[2-9]xxxxxxxxx|1xxxxxxxxxx|011xxxxxxxxxxxx.|98*|[6-7]x*xxxxxxxxxxx.)

I need this as my kids and I don't normally dial out using the area code unless we are calling long distance.

thxs
-J

[Red89GT]

how would I add a default area code of 705 for my dial plan?
I'm trying to figure out this formula you guys are using and it's bit over my head right now!

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(911|[2-9]xxxxxxxxx|1xxxxxxxxxx|011xxxxxxxxxxxx.|98*|[6-7]x*xxxxxxxxxxx.)

I need this as my kids and I don't normally dial out using the area code unless we are calling long distance.

thxs
-J

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North American 7-digit dialing plan:

( [345689]11 | *xxS0 | <:1YOUR AREA CODE HERE>[2-9]xxxxxxS0 | 1[2-9]xx[2-9]xxxxxxS0 | 011xxxxxx. | [*x][*x][*x][*x]. ) 

This dial plan adds your area code to the beginning of a seven-digit dialed number. Any calls outside your area code must start with 1.
I have not tested this Dial plan on FPL on my pap2 yet as im not home but give it a try and let me know.

[jgionet76]

how would I add a default area code of 705 for my dial plan?
I'm trying to figure out this formula you guys are using and it's bit over my head right now!

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(911|[2-9]xxxxxxxxx|1xxxxxxxxxx|011xxxxxxxxxxxx.|98*|[6-7]x*xxxxxxxxxxx.)

I need this as my kids and I don't normally dial out using the area code unless we are calling long distance.

thxs
-J

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North American 7-digit dialing plan:

( [345689]11 | *xxS0 | <:1YOUR AREA CODE HERE>[2-9]xxxxxxS0 | 1[2-9]xx[2-9]xxxxxxS0 | 011xxxxxx. | [*x][*x][*x][*x]. ) 

This dial plan adds your area code to the beginning of a seven-digit dialed number. Any calls outside your area code must start with 1.
I have not tested this Dial plan on FPL on my pap2 yet as im not home but give it a try and let me know.

That seems to have done the trick! Thanks for your help!

[jgionet76]

so this is my dial sting now which works fine:

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( [345689]11 | *xxS0 | <:1705>[2-9]xxxxxxS0 | 1[2-9]xx[2-9]xxxxxxS0 | 011xxxxxx. | [*x][*x][*x][*x]. )

when we call local calls we don't need to enter the area code anymore (which is what we wanted), however when we do add the area code the call fails. (says not in the teriff msg)

example:
when I dial 705-886-xxxx or 886-xxxx I want the call to placed. 886-xxxx works, 705-886-xxxx fails.
when I dial 1-xxx-xxx-xxxx it should be treated as a long distance or non-local call. (like it is currently set up as)

what do I have to change in my string to make this possible?

thxs
-J

[Red89GT]

I dont think I understand your question

you can make a "705 area code" call now bye just dialing xxx-xxxx. Why would you want to dial 705-xxx-xxxx when you dont have to? Or are you trying to call a different area code such as vancouver 604-xxx-xxxx and having the call fail?

[jgionet76]

I dont think I understand your question

you can make a "705 area code" call now bye just dialing xxx-xxxx. Why would you want to dial 705-xxx-xxxx when you dont have to? Or are you trying to call a different area code such as vancouver 604-xxx-xxxx and having the call fail?

it's because when people call us on our phone it displays 705-xxx-xxxx even though it's a local call and our phones are set to the 705 area code. So when we click on redial on 1 of those calls it fails. We have to manually dial the number without the area code. I'd like for both methods to work if at all possible. With or without the area code for local calls.

[jgionet76]

I dont think I understand your question

you can make a "705 area code" call now bye just dialing xxx-xxxx. Why would you want to dial 705-xxx-xxxx when you dont have to? Or are you trying to call a different area code such as vancouver 604-xxx-xxxx and having the call fail?

it's because when people call us on our phone it displays 705-xxx-xxxx even though it's a local call and our phones are set to the 705 area code. So when we click on redial on 1 of those calls it fails. We have to manually dial the number without the area code. I'd like for both methods to work if at all possible. With or without the area code for local calls.

so is there a way to have a dial string to have the ability to dial a local call with or without the area code?

[OverDrive]

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([2-79]11S0|
<:1>[2-9]xx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|
1[2-9]xx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|
011[2-9]xx[2-9]xxxxxx.|
[6-7]x*xxxxxxxxxxx.|

lets look at it line by line

Line 1, dial 211,311,411,511,611,711 & 911 immidiately
Line 2, for any number that starts with 2-9 and is 10 digits it will PREPEND a 1 in front (so i don't have to dial 1)
Line 3, matches any 11 digit number with a 1 in front and the 2nd number is between 2-9
Line 4, same as above, just with 011 instead of just 1
Line 5, for * codes follwed by a number

[jgionet76]

so is there a way to have a dial string to have the ability to dial a local call with or without the area code?

[OverDrive]

so is there a way to have a dial string to have the ability to dial a local call with or without the area code?

Spoon feed:

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<:1905>[2-9]xxxxxxS0|<:1>[2-9]xx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|

this will allow 7 digit number and prepend 1905 (for 7 digit dialing automatically with 905 numbers) and allow a 10 digit number with prepending a 1 in front

No there is not one for dialing a 7 digit number and it automatically "guesses" what area code to prepend.

If you think about it, 905-549-4898 and 416-549-4898 and 647-549-4898 all "exist" (pulled random number out of my head) and all 3 numbers go to different places, so use the MOST local for you (city area code) or the one that you would call the most.

[jgionet76]

No there is not one for dialing a 7 digit number and it automatically "guesses" what area code to prepend.

this is all I needed to know!

my current dial string is:

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( [345689]11 | *xxS0 | <:1705>[2-9]xxxxxxS0 | 1[2-9]xx[2-9]xxxxxxS0 | 011xxxxxx. | [*x][*x][*x][*x]. )

this already does what I want it do to for local calling using 7 digits. In my area, dialing the area code isn't required (as we only have 1 for the entire region) and my current paid VOIP provider is able to "guess" when I'm dialing numbers locally with or without the area code.

[cu2o2o2]

jgionet76,

FPL can guess too, with or without the area code

Just declare your area code. Insert this in your dial plan before the <:1705> plan. Remember to insert the "|" between plans.

705xxxxxxxS0

Above plan should work since NXX 705 is not assigned to NPA 705.

Cheers!

[cu2o2o2]

FPL can guess too, with or without the area code

Actually, FPL knows if you are dialing with or without area code, FPL does not guess!

<I'm just bored at work! >

[jgionet76]

FPL can guess too, with or without the area code

Actually, FPL knows if you are dialing with or without area code, FPL does not guess!

<I'm just bored at work! >

for the life of me I still can't figure it out
I can dial 7 digit numbers for local numbers.. but I can't dial 11 digit numbers for local numbers.
ex: I can dial 691-xxxx but can't dial 705-691-xxxx

[OverDrive]

FPL can guess too, with or without the area code

Actually, FPL knows if you are dialing with or without area code, FPL does not guess!

<I'm just bored at work! >

for the life of me I still can't figure it out
I can dial 7 digit numbers for local numbers.. but I can't dial 11 digit numbers for local numbers.
ex: I can dial 691-xxxx but can't dial 705-691-xxxx

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<:1705>[2-9]xxxxxxS0|<:1>[2-9]xx[2-9]xxxxxxS0

That should do it.

[jgionet76]

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<:1705>[2-9]xxxxxxS0|<:1>[2-9]xx[2-9]xxxxxxS0

That should do it.

no luck! I can still call 7 digits.. but when I dial 11 I get the msg "not in my terriff plan"
my string is this based on what you suggested:

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( [345689]11 | *xxS0 | <:1705>[2-9]xxxxxxS0|<:1>[2-9]xx[2-9]xxxxxxS0 | 011xxxxxx. | [*x][*x][*x][*x]. )

[cu2o2o2]

jgionet76,


Sorry, my bad. I should have posted the whole dial plan for you instead of giving instruction. So, here it is...

I have re-arranged the sequence of your dial plan to make it work. Just copy and paste.

([345689]11|*xxS0|705xxxxxxxS0|1[2-9]xx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|011xxxxxx.|<:1705>[2-9]xxxxxxS0|[*x][*x][*x][*x].)



Do not dial 1-705-xxxxxxxx.

You should dial 705-xxxxxxx, (why would you dial 1-705-xxxxxx if you are in the 705 area, IT IS a local call, remember? Local calls do not start with 1).


Have a great weekend!

[cu2o2o2]

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<:1705>[2-9]xxxxxxS0|<:1>[2-9]xx[2-9]xxxxxxS0

That should do it.

no luck! I can still call 7 digits.. but when I dial 11 I get the msg "not in my terriff plan"
my string is this based on what you suggested:

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( [345689]11 | *xxS0 | <:1705>[2-9]xxxxxxS0|<:1>[2-9]xx[2-9]xxxxxxS0 | 011xxxxxx. | [*x][*x][*x][*x]. )

no luck! I can still call 7 digits.. but when I dial 11 I get the msg "not in my terriff plan"

Because you effectively disabled the dial plan that starts with a 1 by putting this |<:1>[2-9]xx[2-9]xxxxxxS0 | after | <:1705>[2-9]xxxxxxS0|.

If you look closely, you have no more 11-digit dialing plan that begins with a 1 because this |<:1>[2-9]xx[2-9]xxxxxxS0 | will never be executed. It should have remained as |1[2-9]xx[2-9]xxxxxxS0 |.

[jgionet76]

jgionet76,


Sorry, my bad. I should have posted the whole dial plan for you instead of giving instruction. So, here it is...

I have re-arranged the sequence of your dial plan to make it work. Just copy and paste.

([345689]11|*xxS0|705xxxxxxxS0|1[2-9]xx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|011xxxxxx.|<:1705>[2-9]xxxxxxS0|[*x][*x][*x][*x].)



Do not dial 1-705-xxxxxxxx.

You should dial 705-xxxxxxx, (why would you dial 1-705-xxxxxx if you are in the 705 area, IT IS a local call, remember? Local calls do not start with 1).


Have a great weekend!

still getting "this call is not in your tarriff plan" when I dial 705-691-xxxx (with area code), however when I dial 691-xxxx (without area code) the call goes through

[cu2o2o2]

jgionet76,

Try this one then,


([3-689]11|*xxS0|<705:1705>[2-9]xxxxxxS0|1[2-9]xx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|011xxxxxx.|<:1705>[2-9]xxxxxxS0|[*x][*x][*x][*x].)

Please copy and paste.


cu2

[jgionet76]

jgionet76,

Try this one then,


([3-689]11|*xxS0|<705:1705>[2-9]xxxxxxS0|1[2-9]xx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|011xxxxxx.|<:1705>[2-9]xxxxxxS0|[*x][*x][*x][*x].)

Please copy and paste.


cu2

thxs for the help again, however I'm still getting the same results (not able to dial both 10 and 7 digits for local calls)

ugh.. just realized while typing this.. I meant to say 10 and 7 digit dialing.. seems I was saying 11 before.. which would mean to include the "1", which is NOT what I want. doh!