Keeping regular 911

callopsitte_himself · Post by **callopsitte_himself** » 07/13/2011

Many people have asked about E911 and 911 services and showed worry about E911.

Even if you're on a dry loop you still have access to regular 911. Just connect a phone in an empty jack and voila!

It's the same for a cellular phone. Although it's deactivated you can still call 911 with it.

Those are rules from the CRTC.

user451 · Post by **user451** » 07/26/2011

This has been debated on several forums with no documentation provided to support it in Canada.

Personally I would be very interested if you have a link to this ruling

Ice · Post by **Ice** » 07/27/2011

I can't say much about the "ruling" but I have been able to call 911 on a deactivated cell phone in the past, and had a dialtone on an inactive (dry loop) line.

user451 · Post by **user451** » 07/27/2011

Cell phone yes. But Deactivated Line or Dry loop I have not found it yet in any CRTC ruling, perhaps the FCC has ruled on this for the US, but up here personally I would not rely on it.

Post by **FONGO_kris** » 07/28/2011

As ruled by the CRTC some time ago, all active & inactive phones must be able call emergency services, including GSM phones without SIM cards.

I cannot say the same for dryloops, as they're explicitly provisioned without a dial tone.

user451 · Post by **user451** » 07/28/2011

So far I've not found this online, lots about Voip 911, Cellular, E911 but nothing yet on land lines if you have a link to it that would be great.

Interestingly some dryloop users report a dial tone even though they have never had phone service, and my deactivate land line line is dead

Post by **FONGO_steve** » 07/29/2011

Often times the dial tone heard on a dry loop is nothing more than a dummy dial tone - Bell will put that there to make it easier for the line to be located for installation. I can't comment on whether or not that line actually connects to a phone switch at the other end for 911 calls or not.

Ice · Post by **Ice** » 07/29/2011

I've had a dial tone on my previous dry loop line:
- Could NOT call public numbers (obviously) - automated message would read back to call them or something (don't remember)
- Could call certain *Star or ANAC/ringback numbers iirc
- Did not try 911... (didn't want to waste their time/etc)

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